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More Bad Tea

Posted By teaskeptic on August 21, 2009

Last year was when I tasted a few different Tai Ping Hou Kuis. My favorite batch was the one I got from Camelia Sinensis. Naturally, CS was my first choice for this year’s crop.

Now we all know what TPHK leaves are supposed to look like… right? Well this tea obviously went through some bad times. The leaves are all broken up, and that is easily enough to ruin the tea:

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I don’t mind getting bad tea when the price clearly reflects what is to come. However, I’m pretty sure I paid more than 50cents a gram for this bag-o-weeds. And yes, the entire bag is all chopped up, similar to my displayed sample above.

Wait. Maybe there’s still hope for the tea. I didn’t buy it just to look at it, right? Right. Let’s drink it!

and…

Bad. Bitter. Lifeless. Not anything I would ever choose to drink again.

Maybe my expectations are too high. No. They aren’t. This tea is not worth its price and CS dropped the ball on this one. Literally?

Cloudy Pu Test Day 2

Posted By teaskeptic on May 15, 2009

The results are in.

Yesterday:

Today:

That picture might not be obvious enough. Here’s a bird’s eye view of the 5 fives teas, from top to bottom:

- 2007 7542
- 2008 Nan Jian Tulin “902″
- 2008 Brick of Dehong
- 2006 Yun Zhou Zhai Zi Po brick
- 2008 Yi Wu Mountain Bamboo loose puerh

As usual, my predictions were as wrong as possible. The Dehong brick is the cloudiest, while the loose Yiwu is as clear as can be.

The 7542 is probably the second cloudiest, but it’s pretty close to the Zi Po brick and the Nan Jan Tulian 902.

What do we conclude? We are told that cloudiness is bad, but even the 7542 is somewhat cloudy, and as we all know that is a classic recipe. We already know that it ages nicely. Well, we at least know that the 7542 of 10-20 years ago ages nicely.

To be fair, maybe this test should be repeated for the sake of confidence in the results. Maybe the loose Yiwu is the clearest because it is composed mainly of whole leaves. Maybe the Dehong brick did so poorly because it had more loose bits (this isn’t necessarily the case, but it might have been). The Dehong brick is actually the tea that is most drinkable now, so this is all very strange.

In conclusion, nothing.

Cloudy Pu Test Day 1

Posted By teaskeptic on May 14, 2009

Most people seem to agree that cloudiness in the brew of a young puerh is a bad sign. I don’t know if this is true or not, but I guess it makes sense. Today I began some tests on some cakes, bricks and miscelaneous pu objects I have lying around.

I picked 5 samples from a previous shipment from Yunnan Sourcing. I brewed them and decanted into glasses, with the leaves. The idea is to let them continue to brew overnight and see what happens.

The 5 victims are:

- 2007 7542
- 2008 Nan Jian Tulin “902″
- 2008 Brick of Dehong
- 2006 Yun Zhou Zhai Zi Po brick
- 2008 Yi Wu Mountain Bamboo loose puerh

If I had to make any predictions, I would expect the Dehong brick to be the least cloudy, and the bamboo loose puerh from Yiwu to be the most cloudy. I’m basing this on the fact the Dehong brick always seems to come out very light for me. No bitterness or astringency no matter what I do to it. As for the bamboo stuff, I only brewed it once about a year ago and it was not even drinkable. My notes from that time say “Smells like chlorine, tastes like dirty chlorine”.

Here’s the initial setup right after brewing. The teas, from left to right, are in the same order as listed above (7542 on the left, bamboo on the right).

I don’t have a scale, so I had to approximate leaf proportions. Clearly they are not all the same amounts, but I don’t think that will have too much of an impact in the end. If the above pic isn’t clear enough, I would say none of the teas are cloudy. They are darker than usual because of the heavier brewing, but I don’t see any cloudiness. Maybe tomorrow we will get some results that I can hopefully capture on camera.

Chinatown Da Hong Pao

Posted By teaskeptic on May 13, 2009

Today I purchased a small amount of some almost buck-a-gram Da Hong Pao from the shop in Chinatown I recently mentioned.

I bargained a bit because I just didn’t believe it was worth that much and would have been fine with going home without any.

I have no idea what to make of this tea. It’s very different from any yancha I’ve ever had, in that it seems to be lacking that cinnamon quality I’m used to, but is certainly yancha-esque. It was pretty strong and thick, in a messy, questionable sort of way. It lasted quite long and was very tolerant of what I would call over-infusions (longer than usual infusions).

The dry leaf was pretty crispy, it almost seemed old and fragile. Aside from that, there are some weeeeird things going on with the leaves. Here are two shots with some pretty strange and inconsistent colors.

The color of the brew is what I would expect from yancha, leaning slightly on the orange side.

Finally, the wet tea shows the multicolor spectrum of leaves.

I have no idea how I feel about this tea. It seems to have an ugliness that keeps me curious and interested, like some kind of freak show.

What is this stuff?

Jun Shan Yin Zhen from Teaspring

Posted By teaskeptic on May 12, 2009

This is my first tasting of a yellow tea, so I wasn’t sure what to expect from it.

At $12.90 for a can containing 20g of tea, it’s a tad pricey, but not too bad. I wonder how much of the expense is going towards the metal can and the code that allows you to confirm its authenticity. This could actually be a well-priced tea if we removed those bells and whistles. Oh well.

The dry leaves are pretty rigid and pointy, kind of like a regular silver needle, but toughened up and flattened à la dragon well.

Dry leaves smell like… lychee juice! Wow. I was not expecting that. I couldn’t even notice anything else other than lychees. I love lychees, so that was a great surprise.

In the preheated gaiwan, however, the aroma is much greener and full. Slightly smoky. Lychees disappeared.

First infusion is pretty vegetal, but not harsh. Asparagus is clearly dominating here. Reminds me a lot of anji bai cha, but stronger… less delicate.

Second infusion has lost the asparagus. It’s pretty roasty and a tad smoky now, sort of like the chestnutty dragon wells, but not quite.

I am still getting brief flashbacks of the lychees in the aftertaste.

Third infusion: the smokiness and asparagus are almost all gone, and the sweet, fruitiness seems to want to make an appearance, but is still too shy to take center stage.

Infusion four is similar to the last one, but fading out now.

Infusion five was like sweet water.

People often talk about the transformation of of a tea from infusion to infusion. Most of my teas seem to transform linearly: first they are strong, then less strong , then weak. This tea was more dynamic and it was fun to watch it transform. I’ll have to try it again and see if I get the same results. I’ve learned not to be too confident about any results with a tea until I’ve tried it many, many times. All in all, this was a pretty enjoyable first experience with yellow tea, although I can’t quite say that I notice any major differences between this and a green tea, yet.

2000 Fu Hai 7536 Green Mark

Posted By teaskeptic on May 10, 2009

I seem to have found my second wind when it comes to young puerhs. I’ve been drinking quite a lot of them lately, probably because they are pretty cheap when compared to any other decent teas, but still offer some challenging complexity issues.

This is a sample from Yunnan Sourcing, of course. I tried it once or twice about 6 months ago, and I don’t remember what I thought of it then. I don’t have high expectations for it now simply because ~10 year old pu is kind of awkward. Not young, not aged, but somewhere in between.

How I brew:
Due to the fact that pu usually last many, many infusions, I tend to mix infusions so that I can spend more time drinking and less time infusing. I don’t like only being able to drink tiny amounts at a time. It’s harder to get inside the tea that way and I lose a sense of its energy. I rinse twice, then my first infusion proceeds as normal. I mix infusions 2 and 3 in the faircup. From then on I will mix infusions 4,5,6. Etc…

Furthermore, I’ve been using this yixing gaiwan to do a lot of my brewing lately. Puerhs and dark oolongs. I like it’s heaviness and it really does pack in the heat much more than a porcelain gaiwan.

The dry tea seems to have aged nicely and is pretty easy to break away into a drinkable chunk.

Dry leaves in preheated gaiwan: sweet, dry hay, very subtle hint of smokiness

Wet leaves after rinse: Medicinal merging into a light smoke

First infusion: Mainly sweet smokiness, with a hint of woodsiness

Already some smoky aftertaste.

Infusion 2+3: Mainly smokiness.

Infusion 4+5+6: Smokiness seems to be gone, but I think I might just have gotten desensitized to it. More woodsy now, with a bit of sweetness. No bitterness, but some astringency.

Infusion 7+8+9: Flavors have all mellowed out. Tastes thin but clean. Less astringent now.

Infusion 10+11: Mellowed out woodsiness. I forced my girlfriend to taste it. She said “Mmmm it tastes like somebody took the ashes from an ashtray and made tea out of it.” Ok then.

This is where I stopped. I don’t really have anything positive to say about this tea other than that it’s pretty clean and seems to be growing up. Growing up into what? I have no idea. Overall, the tea was pretty boring right now and even seemed to be lacking in energy. Lazy teenagers…

Midnight Caffeine

Posted By teaskeptic on May 1, 2009

For the last 2 weeks or so I’ve been mainly drinking puerh at night… either old sheng or teas that claim to be old sheng. I guess I got cocky because last night I decided to have some roasted Tie Guan Yin at around midnight. An hour later I tried to go to bed with little success. It was strange. I was pretty tired, but as I tried to sleep I found that although I felt very sleepy and extremely relaxed, I was also clearly wide awake. Too bad I’m not a monk.

Yixing Tests

Posted By teaskeptic on April 29, 2009

Yixing pots are one of the tea areas most in need of skepticism. I, like many other tea nuts, am often caught trying to justify their use and purchase by claims that they make better tea. This is what I have been experimenting with over the last few days.

The Test
The method of testing is pretty simple.
You’ll need: gaiwan, faircup, 2 identical cups, a piece of tape and a yixing pot

  • Put a small piece of tape under one of the cups, this is the cup that will hold the liquid from the yixing pot.
  • Pick a tea and brew it like you normally would, in the gaiwan. Pour the tea into the faircup when it’s ready.
  • Brew a second infusion and add that to the faircup, mixing the first two infusions.
  • Pour half of the tea from the faircup into the yixing pot.
  • I usually pause here for a few moments so that the yixing pot can work its magic.
  • Next, pour the tea from the yixing into the taped cup, and pour the tea from the faircup into the other cup.
  • Now shuffle the two cups around. Try to distract yourself so that you no longer know which cup is which.
  • Smell the aroma from each cup. Drink from the cups. Pay attention!

The taping and shuffling of the cups makes the test a little more blind, for those of us that don’t trust ourselves. I’ve read of people doing variations of this on teachat, and when I visited the Tea Gallery last December, Michael did the same thing to a pot (belonging to Toki, I think) with pretty obvious results.

Points to consider
You’ll have to play around with the preheating of the vessels so that the two cups are at the same temperature when you’re ready to drink from them. Otherwise, you’ll have two cups at different temperatures and this will definitely skew your results. The hotter tea will be more aromatic, less mouthfeel, etc…

My Results
I’ve been doing this on and off with 3 or 4 pots of mine. These pots are around a year old, some of which have seen more action than others. Teas I tried the test with were a Da Hong Pao, an Oriental Beauty, some roasted Tie Guan Yins and a wet stored puerh.

Pass or Fail?
Well… both.
First of all, the test is a success in the sense that I was pretty consistently able to identify which cup came from the yixing. While the differences were pretty subtle, I was pretty surprised by them.
However, just because I was able to taste a difference doesn’t necessarily mean I preferred the taste of the tea that came from the yixing. In fact, I almost always preferred the non-yixing cup.

What I found (and what seems to be case with most people) is that the yixing tends to take away the edges of the tea, creating a rounder, more balanced taste. Another thing I found, is that I tend to enjoy those edges and don’t necessarily want them stripped away. In particular, for the Da Hong Pao and the Tie Guan Yins, I prefered the cup that came straight from the faircup. The edges helped define the flavor in these teas and I liked that. The opposite is true of the OB and the wet puerh. For the OB, I enjoyed the rounder flavor as this particular tea was a bit finnicky, and often has a bit of bitterness to it. As for the wet stored puerh, some of the wet flavor was removed and that is a good thing, for me.

Conclusion
I’m not sure how I feel about these results. It seems like the better the tea, the less need there is to use a yixing pot. As for flawed teas, a pot seems to balance them out and make them sit up straight, so to speak. Maybe my pots just need more seasoning. I was sometimes able to taste the pot in the tea I was drinking, which is probably a good argument for more seasoning. Yeah, I guess that must be it.

Shou or Sheng?

Posted By teaskeptic on April 24, 2009

Is it aged sheng or shou? Something else? Why?

Wu He 2004 from Camellia Sinensis

Posted By teaskeptic on April 16, 2009

Inspired by MarshalN’s latest post here about the 1987 Hualien, I started paying closer attention to wet leaves. I happened to be drinking this “aged” Wu He 2004 today, another green Taiwanese oolong that has been roasted, also from Camelia Sinensis.

As I brewed the tea, a quick distinction appeared in the colors of the leaves. Here is a not so good picture of my partitioning of the leaves into a green pile (left) and a dark pile (right).

Maybe that’s not revealing enough.

Here’s a light green leaf on the dark pile:

And here’s a dark leaf on the green pile:

This investigation really isn’t about finger pointing or malicious suspicions. We tea drinkers are generally a paranoid bunch, and this is the best way to learn. The tea is not bad. While it has some bitterness to it, it also has some nice, buttery tones. Actually, the flavor has a lot in common with the roasted tie guan yin from CS that I wrote about a few weeks ago here. Maybe they roasted both of them themselves? I don’t remember there being this color difference in the wet leaves of that tgy…

Or maybe this is not too uncommon with roasted teas? Perhaps some leaves just got more roasted than others? Although, if this was a natural outcome of the roasting process, I think you would expect that the spectrum of colors would be more continuous. Here we seem to have an all-or-none process. Every leaf is either light green, or dark, with no colors in between. Explanations?